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 | The Evidence
Destroyed, Missing, and Surviving Evidence of the September 11th Attack
Evidence about the September 11th attacks can be divided into three categories: destroyed, missing, and surviving. The missing category includes officially secret information, since the existence of secret evidence and what it indicates cannot be verified.
A great deal of the evidence about the crimes of September 11th has either been destroyed or is unaccounted for. Indeed the event was and continues to be used to justify a campaign of secrecy never before seen in the United States, virtually eliminating public accountability of the very agencies who were entrusted to handle the evidence.
A review of the evidence shows a strong pattern of destruction or suppression of evidence, and the blocking of effective investigations, by the authorities. This is evident whether one looks at the flights, the World Trade Center, or the Pentagon.
Evidence Timeline
While a full accounting of the destruction of evidence from the attack would fill a volume were it ever to be told, the significant releases of evidence are few enough to be easily chronicled.
March, 2002: Five frames of video from a Pentagon security camera were leaked, feeding the no-Boeing theory of the Pentagon attack. Signs of forgery suggest that the frames were actually bait, intended to derail independent inquiry with red herrings.
May, 2002: Publication of FEMA's World Trade Center Building Performance Study provided evidence of a systematic effort to conceal and misrepresent the construction of the Twin Towers, while at the same disclosing in its Appendix evidence suggestive of explosives.
November, 2002: Contents of suppressed audiotape of communications from Chief Oreo Palmer, a firefighter who reached the crash zone of the South Tower, were released.
August, 2003: Publication of the book Behind the Scenes: GROUND ZERO revealed New York City firefighter Nicholas DeMasi's account of the recovery of three of the four black boxes from the planes that crashed into the Twin Towers -- an account not acknowledged by the 9/11 Commission.
July 22, 2004: The Kean Commission published the 9/11 Commission Report , whose demonstrable falsehoods, omissions, contradictions, and changed timelines demonstrate a systematic cover-up.
August 12, 2005: New York Times announced the release of oral histories long suppressed by the New York City government.
June, 2005: NIST released the draft of its final report on the collapses of the Twin Towers. NIST's blatant evasion of its stated objective to "determine why and how WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed following the initial impacts of the aircraft" amounts to a de facto admission that the Towers did not collapse because of the impacts and fires.
May 16, 2006: The Department of Defense released videos from two Pentagon security cameras.
July, 2006: exhibits of the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui were published. They include a diagram of the location of Pentagon attack victims, and copies passenger lists for and detailed accounts of phone calls from the four commandeered jetliners.
August 11, 2006: The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) released full transcripts of the air traffic control recordings from the four flights commandered on 9/11/01. A set of eight NTSB documents were published by the National Security Archive on the gwu.edu website.
The transcripts include altitude profiles and ground track maps for all of the flights except United Flight 93.
Pilots for the Truth had examened the data of the NTSB and found it manipulated and not complete. As such the flight to the Pentagon par example shows higher altitude and more to the left flying direction. The plane couldn't hit the building by that course and is not seen at the given time schedule, so something else has hit the Pentagon. The data stream stops some seconds before the assumed impact but the time on the dashboard clock does not fit in the video observation.
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 | Dear Pointer,
This submission has nothing whatsoever to do with John McCain. Obama has made all these flip flops to gain votes in swing states...yes You vote no if you think these Obama flip flops will cause him to lose...no.
Glenn Cole
100% service connected disabled retired
Lt. Colonel, Army of the United States [Link] |
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| Dear beeg39,
It is the far left wing Liberals in the US Congress that has forced farmers into inefficient corn refining for profit by their massive subsidies for the production of ethanol from corn.
This has forced fuel prices up to levels that many people cannot afford to pay them. The corporations involved in this ethanol refining are small corporations that the richer farmers have set up.
Glenn Cole
100% service connected disabled retired
Lt. Colonel, Army of the United States [Link] |
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| A maintenance worker in the basements of the Twintowers did the same obsevations of heavy explosions before the planes arived. Two colleagues disappeared totally and a tons heavy piece of machinery was swept to scrap.
There is also evidence of this by seismic registrations.
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| I'm afraid you are dreaming.
To make believable that the whole structure melt down by fire, that whole structure must show fire like never in history before, because never in history such a structure collapsed by fire.
There were after all pockets of molten steel more than 1800°C in the basements. That's normal after controlled demolition, but it can't be the result of an office fire.
Asking what is possible PHYSICS goes always first.
If you don't like the answers, sorry, but we can't change physics.
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| More disturbing is that it is suspected those fires in Building 7were set off by bombs.
In exclusive video, Barry Jennings discusses explosions in Building 7 even before the collapse of the 2 twin towers. Building seven already had explosions at 9 in the morning with dead bodies in the hallways- sounds like murders to me.
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, June 23, 2008
Exclusive video of emergency official Barry Jennings discussing explosions inside WTC 7 before either of the twin towers had collapsed and having to step over dead bodies of victims as he attempted to vacate the building has been released for the first time.
The clip, which was originally intended to feature in Loose Change Final Cut but had to be withdrawn according to Jennings' wishes after he had received threats, has now been made public in anticipation of a BBC documentary about Building 7 which is expected to skew Jennings' account in an attempt to reinforce the official story.
In reality, what Jennings witnessed completely contradicts the official story of what happened to Building 7...
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| They were hoping it would make sense to you..LOL "Fire" never brought down any skyscraper in the world until 911... Some skyscrapers burned as long as 37 hours before the fires were put out. A fireman in one of the towers said he could put out the fire with 2 hoses. That means the fires were not even 600 degrees (1800 degrees is needed for many hours to weaken the steel). As soon as he said that the collapse started and all the cement was blown to bits so that 1500 have died of lung sickness since 911. Dr Steven Jones proved that the thermate in the building was produced only by explosives and those explosives were proven to have been developed by a NASA laboratory.
In exclusive video, Barry Jennings discusses explosions in Building 7 before collapse of twin towers
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, June 23, 2008
Exclusive video of emergency official Barry Jennings discussing explosions inside WTC 7 before either of the twin towers had collapsed and having to step over dead bodies of victims as he attempted to vacate the building has been released for the first time.
The clip, which was originally intended to feature in Loose Change Final Cut but had to be withdrawn according to Jennings' wishes after he had received threats, has now been made public in anticipation of a BBC documentary about Building 7 which is expected to skew Jennings' account in an attempt to reinforce the official story.
In reality, what Jennings witnessed completely contradicts the official story of what happened to Building 7...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/062308_dead_bodies.htm
Head of the security firm for building 7 was Marvin Bush the youngest Bush-brother. [Link] |
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| Where the planes hit the windows were broken and some people broke windows to get fresh air or to jump. You have to be alive as a human to break a window and you can't stay alive in 100°C, the boiling point of water in open air on sea-level. Also at the places of impact there were people walking standing and waving, not burned and in good shape.
It's not a smart argument to say that controlled demolition was not the case because other cases of controlled demolition look the same.
Of couse you can spare much explosives by putting the most in the lower parts of the structure and gain benefits from gravity. That's what you see in the classic controlled demolition of building WTC7.
To fall with the speed of free fall the debris has to fall in free space without resistance. There is no time to overcome resistance crushing lower parts of the building. Look at the videofootages of WTC7 and you see the dark form on the roof in the middle collapse first. That is on top of the core of the building and the core has to callapse first to let the perifere construction fall inwards with all the material inside the borders of its footprint. That's classic demolition as it has to be.
There is also a great difference in the technics of demolition according to the different materials. We have to stay with demolishing dubble shafted steel structures and nothing else.
But the demolition of the Twintowers was not a classic one and about that I will explain more if you wish.
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| Dear beeg39,
It is not gobblegook. It is a very important point. McCain vote against the bill was identical to all of his previous opposition to all forms of torture and waterboarding by the armed forces. The bill he voted against was trying to change the previous legislation applicable to the armed forces against all forms of torture.
What has the CIA to do with the US Army Field Manual on interrogation?
Glenn Cole
100% service connected disabled retired
Lt. Colonel, Army of the United States [Link] |
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| "Did you see a fierce fire in building WTC7?"
Well, yeah, it is there in some of the films. Now if you are going to ask me why it is burning like that, I could not say but there are definitely some fierce fires visible and broken windows with fire coming out.[Link] |
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| Dear scottimack,
We are in total agreement on that point you have made.
Glenn Cole
100% service connected disabled retired
Lt. Colonel, Army of the United States [Link] |
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| Actually this conspiracy is just too small to be satisfying.
Now here is a grand conspiracy:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI&feature=related
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| 1. President John McCain has made clear that he will catch and kill every member of Al Qaeda no matter where they try to hide as a priority of his administration. If we do that Al Qaeda will be unable to recruit anyone because they will have no where in the world to hide and recruit and train anyone.
2. No Sir, John McCain is a professional military officer which is 180 degrees different and better than the military amateur George Bush. That is why I will send my sons to serve under him to execute this number one priority national security mission and get it done in a professional manner.
Glenn Cole
100% service connected disabled retired
Lt. Colonel, Army of the United States [Link] |
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| Did you see a fierce fire in building WTC7?
There were no firefighters and the building had its own energy- and watersupply, because it was accommodated to serve as a command centre in case of a terrorist's attack. Recent reinforcements of the commandroom on the 23rd storey had cost 43 million dollars.
All computer reconstructions deliberately don't show the real structures of the buildings which were overengineerd and indestructible without the use of high explosives.
Dogs who served in the security routine to detect explosives were drawn back since several weeks.
Head of the security firm was Marvin Bush the youngest Bush-brother.
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| No windows were broken by fire? If you look at the various films you see windows apparently gone in the parts of the building where the worst fires are happening and smoke and flames pouring out of the holes.
As for, the "with the speed of free fall question" when the collapse begins big buildings in you see in films of controlled collapses all look like they fall at about the speed of free fall. In those cases even though the charges are just set in the lower floors and all the upper floors have to break when they smash and collapse into the lower floors it does not seem to slow them down so I don't really see what that objection is supposed to prove. In the case of catastrophic failure of key parts of the building it seems to me like what we have always seen in the controlled demolitions suggests once the collapse has begun that is how fast it is likely to continue to happen.[Link] |
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| maybe you are clicking spam instead of edit... there are are publications in the last years about the child slavery and kidnappings in Belgium- the people took to the streets for letting the arrested "Belgium Beast" Marc Dudoux escape or off. The trails led to high up government officials in belgium - (he was acting for a "big crime ring")
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3533381.stm
a daughter said she was taken to meetings where they worshipped Lucifer and this was in regular german publications for awhile. They also killed babies. But people found it hard to believe and did not want to hear any more. Apparently there are really people who worship Lucifer (hard for me to believe, but I forced myself to accept the bizarre reality, as I have seen it in print so much in the German language). 27 witnesses were killed who were to be witnesses during the trial. English Wiki wont have that- you have to read german as Wiki english strongly censors info:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux#Todesf.C3.A4lle_nach_der_Verhaftung
- State attorney Hubert Massa supposedly committed suicide. Lots of people had to die after Dutoux capture...
Dr Bannon wrote Race Against Evil and the prevalent child sex rings among the top money earners in our world. But it is all probably too much for you and anyway my top concern is our country right now. For me, 911 is more amazing and troubling than ancient on the moon or buildings, or even child pornagraphy and slavery. But I think you do need to realize that your sphere has no idea of the real world and that you have been happily shielded, as I was. To reject evil as just a conspiracy story is perhaps convenient and comfortable. But even the Washington Times said the White House fly in high dollar male prostitutes and elected leaders run around dressed as women. Rove is apparently a gay guy for instance (no offence to gay members on this board)..It is not very often that the media will cover bizarre behavior of our leaders...they must have slipped up...LOL The Texas Rangers discovered that their Texas Youth Institutions were being used for child prostitution on the week ends and they werent allowed to cover all the details publically but enough is out there in publication and arrests were made and a stop put to it. Several Homeland Security department heads were caught in child sex in Florida...
BTW Gates said we are going to get nuked next year. At least he is warning us about the next staged attack which he did not on 911.
And if you dont want me to tell you anymore of what I know- I will respect that. I can tell you prefer to dismiss it because that is more comfortable for you...but I had thought you would want to know about the link to these brilliant young scientists since their research related to AIDS and Avian flu which some suspect the gov. will do next. Indonesia claims the USA created the deadly form of H5N1 and released in Thailand where the US has a hotly disputed laboratory and because we were talking last month about the books -
Emerging Viruses: AIDS And Ebola : Nature, Accident or Intentional? - Leonard G. Horowitz
Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present - Harriet A. Washington
Americans are so naive.... like Dodos on that island that all got killed off because they were so innocent...[Link] |
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| So, the upper sections above places of impact turned over to one side and fell down to the ground?
I didn't see that!
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| Oh beeg you are up? Your own thoughts are normal and the evil people depend on naive citizenry. If you want me to guess as as to why not France. The CIA and the MI5 and MI6 have headquarters in England and work together. I am not saying that it was them. Why dont you listen to the radio interview and it will give you a view outside of the normal world you live in, but which is however real as proven by Dyncor during hearings of our own government and I bet you never heard it on TY.
An English scientist was being followed in England and took refuge in Belgium and was allowed citizenship and they were able to protect her there- in England she was a sitting duck.[Link] |
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| Open fire fueled by diesel produces maximal 320°C of heat.
Open fire fueled by kerosine produces at most 270°C of heat.
Windows break at 200-250°C and no windows were broken by fire.
In a steel structure heat is fast distributed which has a strong cooling effect. That's why never in history a steel structure collapsed by fire.
To let the steelstructures collapse with the speed of free fall, vaporizing all carbon based material and pulverizing concrete, equipment and furnitures to 60-100 micron, storey after storey each in a split second, you need a ignited heat of 22,000+°C (more than twenty-two-thousend degrees Celsius) on each storey.
How do these physics match with the official fairy-tale?
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 | Once again I typed out an answer and it did not register. Don't know what is happening technically, but it doesn't happen anywhere else except on this topic page. Anyway, I do not belong to a group that studies the murders of scientists. I gave you my honest feelings. I did not intend to be disrespectful to any segment of society. Homicidal rage occurs within every segment. Why were they not killed in France--why wait until they are in England? Many more facts will emerge that will look like one thing to you and another to me. I always try to see it your way but then my own thoughts kick in and I make the call. I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone.[Link] |
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| "I know you will automatically reject it because you already earnestly believe the conspiracy story. I don't."
A murder is a conspiracy, and especially such a shocking and brutal one. Do you mean that a government was involved? It is the duty of a citizen to question when we know the media is cooperating with corporate and government interests! Do you think it is normal to arrive in a country and be eliminated in such a way? How many "gay" murders involve 196 stab wounds? The 23 years old had not been "entrusted with" but they were creating it- they were extraordinarily brilliant.
Which "conspiracy story" are you talking about?
What makes you think more will come out in the press? I am the only one who will looking because most people dont care when scientists disappear or turn up dead.
I have belonged to a group of people watching the bio-engineering and micro-biology deaths for the last 10 years. That was long before I found out about others things and why. Remember when Clinton was pres. and this countries 10 top bio scientists were either found dead or not at all and they were saying that the ones found dead were from suicide. And it all happened within like 7 days. There was only a blurb on the media for one day and then it just went away.
The 2 students were brilliant and had been allowed to participate despite not having finished their masters degree. They were VISITING from France. To just throw it off as a gay thing is disrespectful if you know how many engineering biologists have been killed or disappeared.
The "assassin" wanted to make it look like "serious rage". No different than any copy-cat killer, or any other false flag ops.
Send any investigators on a false trail.
As far as a time factor goes..a pro will plan for whatever period of time is required
[example: they may need to extract info first...]
Did that happen in this particular case? Really, there is no way at all to ever know… even if they convict some raging person for that crime. As far as pros doing "wet work".. up close an personal.. David Bannon describes exactly that.
Alex interviews Dr. David Bannon, former InterPol Assassin. Bannon has first hand knowledge of the operations of child sex rings (Dyncor- child traffikers- our own senate hearings about a government contractor who dealt in children) and was prevented from investigating elite connections by his superiors.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bannon_07_17_03.html
A "pro" would make it look like ANYTHING, but what it really was. "Suicide" is the favorite method.[Link] |
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| At such time as the question is framed that way sure.
Till then it is just 100% brain damaged Cole bullshit.[Link] |
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| Does up mean I agree with Cicero?[Link] |
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| Corn is not what they should be using, Algae looks very promising.[Link] |
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